19:32 RM: OK, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED
19:33 RM: JUST A QUICK REMINDER OF LECTURE PROTOCOL
19:33 RM: WHEN YOU HAVE A QUESTION...
19:34 RM: RAISE YOUR "HAND" BY TYPING !
19:34 RM: I'LL ACKNOWLEDGE YOU BY SAYING "GA"
19:35 RM: TONITE'S TOPIC IS THE THIRD AND LAST IN THE SERIES...
19:35 RM: "MASTERING THE MERGE"
19:36 RM: WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT A POSITIVE ENERGY MERGE...
19:37 RM: THAN YOUR OPPONENT
19:38 RM: MANY PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES WHEN THEY HAVE ENERGY OVER...
19:38 RM: THEIR OPPONENTS
19:38 RM: THEY GET COMPLACENT.
19:38 RM: AS I DISCUSSED IN MY LAST LECTURE
19:39 RM: A LOWER PLANE...
19:39 RM: MUST FIRST EQUALIZE ENERGY BEFORE...
19:39 RM: BEING ABLE TO GET A SHOT
19:40 RM: YOUR GOAL AS A HIGHER PLANE...
19:40 RM: IS TO KEEP YOUR ENERGY ABOVE THAT OF YOUR OPPONENT
19:40 RM: WHILE AT THE SAME TIME SETTING HIM UP FOR A SHOT
19:41 RM: THE FIRST STEP IS TO DETERMINE YOUR OPPONENT'S...
19:41 RM: RELATIVE ENERGY
19:42 RM: ASK YOURSELF...
19:42 RM: "CAN I ROPE HIM?"
19:42 RM: WE'LL GET INTO THE SPECIFICS ON A ROPE-A-DOPE IN A BIT...
19:43 RM: IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ENERGY FOR A ROPE...
19:43 RM: THEN YOUR GOAL SHOULD BE TO GET ENOUGH TO DO SO
19:44 RM: FORCE YOUR OPPONENT TO BURN ENERGY TRYING TO TURN ON YOU
19:44 RM: WHILE YOU CONSERVE YOUR ENERGY IN LOW G MANEUVERS...
19:44 RM: TRY NOT TO GET BELOW YOUR OPPONENT
19:45 RM: AND ZOOM ON HIM AS HE TURNS ON YOU
19:45 RM: QUESTIONS SO FAR?
19:45 RM: OK...
19:45 Marcy: !
19:45 RM: AT THIS STAGE YOU'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL...
19:46 RM: GA MARCY
19:46 Marcy: are we talkin about a co-alt fite? or hier alt and E?
19:47 RM: IN THE GRAPHIC ABOVE...
19:47 RM: WE'RE TALKING A POSITIVE ENERGY MERGE...
19:47 RM: BUT A SITUATION WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH E TO RISK...
19:48 RM: TRYING A ROPE A DOPE
19:48 RM: AS I MENTIONED...
19:48 RM: YOUR GOAL SHOULD BE TO TRY AND GET ENOUGH E TO DO SO
19:48 RM: THIS MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE DEPENDING ON PLANE TYPE
19:49 RM: IF YOU'RE IN A 109 AND I'M IN A 51,,,
19:49 RM: CHANCES ARE YOU'LL EQUALIZE ENERGY RATHER THAN ME GAIN ON YOU
19:50 RM: BUT IF I'VE GOT A SIMILAR CLIMBING PLANE OR BETTER CLIMBING PLANE...
19:50 RM: THEN I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET ENOUGH E FOR A ROPE ATTEMPT BY...
19:50 RM: CONSERVING ENERGY IN LOW G MANEUVERS...
19:51 RWY: !
19:51 RM: AND FORCING YOU TO DO HIGH G MANEUVERS EITHER EVADING OR...
19:51 RM: TRYING FOR A SHOT ON ME
19:53 RM: GA RWY
19:53 RWY: so if you are in slower over all plane this is bad manuver ?
19:54 RM: SLOWER HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH IT...
19:54 RM: CLIMB ABILITY IS IMPORTANT HERE
19:54 RM: AS IS ZOOM ABILITY
19:55 RM: THIS MANEUVER IS REALLY FOR USE AGAINST SIMILAR...
19:55 RM: OR MORE MANEUVERABLE PLANES
19:55 RM: IF A LOWER OPPONENT IS LESS MANEUVERABLE...
19:55 RM: THEN YOU WANT TO GO IN FOR THE ATTACK
19:56 RM: OTHERWISE HE WILL PROBABLY RUN
19:56 RM: ANYWAY...
19:56 RM: ONCE YOU GET ENOUGH ENERGY FOR A ROPE ATTEMPT...
19:58 RM: TO HELP ENSURE A SUCCESSFUL ROPE
19:58 RM: FOR A ROPE TO WORK...
19:58 RM: YOU NEED TO GET YOUR OPPONENT TO COME UP AFTER YOU
20:00 RM: AND GET SLOW
20:00 RM: MANY PEOPLE IN THE ARENA WILL DO THIS WITHOUT REQUIRING...
20:00 RM: TOO MUCH PERSUASION
20:00 RM: ONE THING I DO ON ALMOST ALL MY ROPE PASSES...
20:01 RM: IS TO DROP THE NOSE AND MAKE IT LOOK LIKE YOU'RE...
20:01 RM: DIVING ON HIM
20:01 RM: WHEN HE SEES YOU DIVE...
20:01 RM: HE CLIMBS UP INTO YOU...
20:01 RM: THINKING HE'LL COME OVER THE TOP AND FOLLOW YOU AS YOU GO...
20:02 RM: BELOW HIM
20:02 RM: BUT...
20:03 RM: WHAT YOU DO IS ONCE YOU SEE HIM COMMIT TO PULLING UP...
20:04 RM: YOU PULL UP IN A SHORT, HIGH G PULL
20:04 RM: GET YOUR NOSE HIGH AND WAIT FOR YOUR SPEED TO DROP OFF
20:05 RM: ONCE YOUR SPEED DROPS...
20:06 RM: DIP YOUR WING...
20:06 RM: AND GO INTO A SPIRAL...
20:07 Marcy: !
20:07 RM: AT THIS POINT YOU SPIRAL UP AND WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE...
20:07 RM: YOUR OPPONENT DROP OFF
20:09 RM: GA MARCY
20:09 Marcy: ok, so your spiral climbin and the guy is pullin
nose hi and hard to get a shot
20:09 RM: RIGHT
20:10 Marcy: and when u get below 200 or so u have to start usin so
flaps to keep him from getting a beed..aka keep G's
20:10 Marcy: up a tad
20:10 RM: GET BELOW 200??? :)
20:10 Marcy: hehehe, well if u DO get below 200
20:10 RM: I DON'T START SPIRALING TIL ABOUT 150 :)
20:10 Marcy: ah cc
20:11 Marcy: well neways.. after he shows his belly and u start ur dive
20:11 RM: THE KEY HERE IS LOW G...
20:11 Marcy: is it better to release much flaps as possible to regain speed
20:11 Marcy: or hold flaps down..stay low and keep enuf
lift for hi G / jink following?
20:12 RM: YOU NEED TO DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO KEEP IT
20:13 RM: FLAPS WILL KILL YOUR E FAST
20:13 Marcy: keep what? E or lift?
20:13 RM: YOU NEED TO KEEP YOUR E...
20:13 RM: ON MANY OF MY SPIRAL ROPES IN AN F4...
20:13 RM: I AM AT 75 KIAS...
20:13 RM: NOSE HIGH...
20:14 RM: YOUR OPPONENT _MAY_ GET A SHOT ON YOU
20:14 RM: BUT HE HAS LESS E THAN YOU DO...
20:14 RM: SO IT WILL BE A LUCKY HIT AT BEST
20:14 Marcy: cc well lota times i use my 51 n play with 38s in a hi zoom..
and i get tracers shooting my rudder off
20:14 RM: HE CAN'T MAINTAIN
20:15 RM: 38'S A RE A BAD PLANE TO ZOOM AGAINST :)
20:16 RM: BASICALLY YOU NEED TO USE EVERY OUNCE OF E TO ITS FULLEST
20:16 RM: PULL UP UNTIL YOU HIT A GOOD CLIMB SPEED (USUALLY ABOUT 150)
20:17 RM: THEN ENTER INTO YOUR SPIRAL
20:17 RM: IF YOU SEE THAT YOU MAY BE IN TROUBLE...
20:17 RM: EASE OUT OF YOUR SPIRAL AND GO INTO MORE OF A CLIMB
20:17 RM: IF IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT TOO MUCH E...
20:17 RM: THEN GO INTO A TIGHTER SPIRAL AND PULL SOME Gs TO GET...
20:17 RM: SOME ANGLES
20:18 RM: THIS IS REAL EASY TO SHOW WITH HANDS :)
20:18 RM: THE REASON A SPIRAL WORKS BETTER THAN A CLASSIC ROPE...
20:18 RM: IS THAT YOU CAN USE THE SPIRAL TO MATCH E WITH YOUR OPPONENT
20:19 RM: AS I JUST EXPLAINED
20:19 RWY: !
20:19 RM: SO A COUPLE THINGS TO REMEMBER IN A SPIRAL ROPE...
20:20 RM: DON'T USE FLAPS UNTIL YOU'RE READY TO ROLL INTO YOUR OPPONENT
20:20 Breeder: !
20:21 RM: GET TO YOUR BEST CLIMB SPEED BEFORE GOING INTO A SPIRAL...
20:21 RM: USE IT TO GET ALT, NOT ANGLES
20:21 RM: OK...GA RWY, BREEDER NEXT
20:21 RWY: so a flat turn is no good at the top of spiral ?
20:22 RM: IT CAN BE...
20:22 RWY: you must be climbing at all times
20:22 RM: IT DEPENDS ON YOUR RELATIVE ENERGY TO YOUR OPPONENT
20:23 RWY: cc
20:23 RM: IF YOU FIND YOURSELF WITH A LARGE ENERGY DISPARITY...
20:23 RM: THEN YOU DON'T WANT TO KEEP CLIMBING...
20:23 RM: BECAUSE IT WILL JUST PUT YOU FURTHER FROM YOUR OPPONENT WHEN HE FALLS OFF
20:24 RWY: cc
20:24 RM: THE IDEAL RANGE FOR YOUR OPPONENT TO BE WHEN HE FALLS OFF IS...
20:24 RM: ABOUT 750 YARDS...IT'S JUST OUT OF NOSE-UP GUNS RANGE...
20:25 RM: AND WHEN HE FALLS OFF (IF YOU TIME IT RIGHT)...
20:25 RM: YOU ARE SO CLOSE THAT HE HAS NO TIME TO RECOVER
20:25 RM: WHEN YOU'RE FIRST TRYING THIS MANEUVER, HOWEVER...
20:25 RM: TRY FOR 1000 YARDS AND WORK YOUR WAY DOWN...
20:26 RM: FINE TUNING IT TAKES A LOT OF PRACTICE :)
20:26 RM: GA BREEDER
20:26 Breeder: My biggest problem while roping is that the nme just
won't fall off...
20:26 Breeder: he just hangs back there about 800 to 1200 away
waiting for my move...
20:27 Breeder: sometimes I can spiral around and get a decent angle...
20:27 Breeder: and drop on him for a snapshot...but sometimes I
get nose to nose too
20:27 Breeder: any good way to make him drop off?
20:27 RM: NOT REALLY...
20:28 RM: JUST KEEP SPIRALING AROUND...
20:28 Boatd: !
20:28 RM: WAIT UNTIL YOU GET A DECENT ANGLE...
20:28 RM: THEN CONVERT YOUR ALTITUDE INTO Gs AND TRY AND GET A SHOT
20:28 RM: THE THING IS...
20:29 Breeder: cc...thats what I do
20:29 RM: IT TAKES A PRETTY DECENT PILOT TO KEEP UP WITH A NOSE UP SPIRAL
20:29 RM: YOU _CAN_ DROP A BIT AND TRY AND GET HIM TO CONVERT FOR A SHOT
20:29 RM: BUT THIS RUNS THE RISK OF TAKING SOME LEAD IN THE BELLY :)
20:30 RM: DO SORT OF MINI ROPES IN A ROPE :)
20:30 RM: GA BOATD
20:31 Boatd: hes talking of the plane just hanging and waiting that
what the 38 is very good at
20:31 Boatd: it stalls at a lot slower speed than most single engine planes
20:31 RM: IF THE PLANE IS HANGING AND WAITING...
20:32 RM: LET HIM HANG AND WAIT
20:32 Boatd: so be warry of them .. also the 38 maitines speed in climb
better than most .. zoom rate that is
20:32 RM: BE PATIENT
20:32 RM: PATIENCE IS KEY IN POSITIVE ENERGY MERGES
20:32 RM: EVEN IF YOU TAKE A PING OR TWO...
20:32 RM: STILL BE PATIENT
20:33 RM: MANY TIMES THAT 38 WILL BE COMING UP FOR A SHOT...
20:33 RM: THEN WILL EXPEND EVERYTHING FOR A SNAP SHOT...
20:33 RM: HOPING TO GET YOU TO COME DOWN
20:33 RM: DON'T COME OFF YOUR ROOST UNLESS IT'S OBVIOUS HE HAS ENOUGH
20:34 RM: E TO GET A LOT OF SHOTS ON YOU
20:34 RM: BECAUSE WHEN YOU COME OFF...
20:34 RM: HE CAN FOLLOW YOU DOWN AND YOU'LL DIE QUICKLY...
20:34 RM: UNLESS YOU'VE GOT ANGLES ON HIM OR HE'S FALLEN OFF.
20:35 RM: ONCE HE EXPENDS THE ENERGY FOR THE SHOT, HE _HAS_ TO
20:35 RM: FALL OFF AND THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE HIM...
20:35 RM: MMMM....
20:35 RM: NOTHING LIKE A 38 DROPPING OFF AT 600 YARDS :)
20:36 RM: THE KEY CONCEPTS ARE:
20:36 RM: 1) KEEP YOUR ENERGY UP BY DOING LOW G MANEUVERS AND NO FLAPS
20:37 RM: 2) USE THE SPIRAL TO BETTER MATCH YOUR OPPONENTS E
20:37 RM: 3) BE PATIENT!!!!
20:38 RM: ANY MORE QUESTIONS?
20:39 ManHi: !
20:39 RM: GA MANHI
20:39 ManHi: It's ok then to lose a little E in yer moves if they lose more??
20:39 RM: YES MANHI...
20:40 RM: RELATIVE E IS IMPORTANT...
20:40 ManHi: r, thought so, just wanted to make sure it wasn't a big nono..thnx
20:40 RM: YOU CAN PULL 6g TURNS...
20:41 RM: AS LONG AS YOU STILL HAVE ENOUGH E FOR A ROPE ATTEMPT...
20:41 RM: AFTER YOU'RE DONE
20:42 RM: _UNLESS_ YOU'VE GOT MULTIPLE LOWER OPPONENTS :)
20:42 RM: BUT THAT'S A TOPIC FOR ANOTHER DAY
20:42 RM: THANKS FOR COMING FOLKS...
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